Wednesday, August 23, 2006

What do you think?

Read the following article...Inspite of everything that has happened at our school over the past weekend, is this your class? Is this your generation? How can we relate this to the literature we are studying?,2777,DRMN_23916_4622800,00.html


Blogger chrisg said...

It is very interesting to see that these professionals in the buisness world still do not possess the critical ethics and skills that are an essential for their careers. It is crazy to think about moms and dads coming into the office to fight for their 20 year old's raise. I have a little sympathy for these people, very little, but a little none the less because of the new research that says that people do not fully develop the frontal temporal lobes that control the concious of the body until about 25 years of age. This still does not account fully for the lack of ethics that are coming about in the new buisness world. I do think that it is a part of the lower levels of education to instill some of these ethics. I think that most of the responsibility should be placed on the parents, but especially the kid to develop, and learn, these ethics. This will not only create a better buisness world, but a better world in general for the kid.

August 23, 2006 5:07 PM  
Blogger ashleyg said...

I think teenagers need to start taking their futures more seriously. They need to start watching what they do and say, not only at school but in their work place. How they act now will be the way they act in the future in their career.

August 23, 2006 8:00 PM  
Blogger levik said...

I believe that students today often live in the moment and do not worry about their futures. They count on parents to provide food, shelter, money for college, and to take care of their issues. This clearly sets the stage for a young adult to be ill prepared for the fast pace working world. More responsibility needs to be placed on young adults to take care of and face their own issues. It may even come down to the level of perfoming simple household chores. I agree with chrisg that these ethics can be put in place with help from lower levels of education. With a solid base established students turning into working adults will be ready for anything.

August 24, 2006 11:39 AM  
Blogger hannahm said...

Many times you see teenagers that are really only consumed with what is happining in their lives now. They don't think about how values, such as honesty or integrity, might help them in their futures. This is much like a tragic hero because they make decisions in the begining that effect them more than expected in the end.

August 24, 2006 12:59 PM  
Blogger Haley C said...

I think that teenages are not taking their futurs seriously because most of them have had everything handed to them in their lives and they are expecting the "real" world to be a peice of cake. They don't realize that what they are doing now with their lives will effect them in the future.

August 24, 2006 6:13 PM  
Blogger DavidV said...

personally i think this article is a load. At this point in our lives it is not our responsibility to be independant. There is a reason that we're called "minors." Of course we're going to look to our parents for help when it's needed, cause that is in fact the responsibility the undertook when they decided to have kids. I think that the whole mommy/daddy thing doesn't hold kids back. everyone needs help sometimes and at this age our parents are obvously far more knowledgeable than we are, what is wrong with seeking their guidance. We will all mature at our own rate and be prepared when need be. It would be incredibly ignorant to believe that everyone from our generation is slacking due to over guidance from parents, just as it is equally ignorant to think that everyone from the "pre cell" era is prospering because they were exposed to independance at a younger age. It's all a matter or persoannal growth. some will make it some will not, regaurdless of parental help.

August 24, 2006 7:14 PM  
Blogger David L said...

I think that this article rings true for many kids in our area. Although not all kids are completely provided for throughout high school and after, there are a great many in our school and others around us who are given everything they need - or sometimes everything they want - by their parents. Regardless of the teenager's parents' wealth, I feel that it is a key part of parenting to teach their children accountability, responsibility, and ethics. While I don't think that teachers should necessarily be held responsible for teaching these ethics to students, I do feel that the administration should hold people responsible for their actions. I sympathize with students who don't have time to work because of sports, band, family matters, or other activities; however, I feel that in a way some of these activities can take the place of work in these circumstances. Not only do these things give kids responsibilities and teach good time management, but they often teach individual accountability, teamwork, and work ethic as well. I feel that the people who surround young people today must be those who set the example and teach them these ethics, because teenagers cannot simply be expected to develop the desired ethics of society if they are given no guidance or are taught that they will be provided for all their life.

August 24, 2006 7:45 PM  
Blogger Kurt W. said...

This article can ring true to some, but definitely not everyone. However, I really doubt that it will for most Arapahoe students. We are a pretty select group of rather lucky kids. Of course, everything I just said is an overgeneralization. My point is, you really can't group everyone of a generation or a class into boundaries. There will always people below the average line...but there will also always be those above the line.

August 24, 2006 8:38 PM  
Blogger Mark C said...

I agree completely with davidv. We are not adults yet and we shouldn't be expected to be adults. We are still dependent on adults, but I do think there needs to be a learning process of independence going on.

I also agree that ethics are quickly declining. Moral decisions are difficult at times and in order to make the correct decisions one must have a strong set of ethics. I disagree with the article's idea of work being a "rite of passage" for ethics. Morals come straight from learning. If minors and children do not have their MAIN role model a person with strong ethics, then they will never value them. The person they respect must put a high priority on issues such as integrity, honesty, and graciousness. The problem is that there is less and less parents and adults who prioritize morals higher than success. That quickly is passed on to the kids and minors.

August 24, 2006 8:53 PM  
Blogger jeffg said...

I do think that this author is correct in a few of his statements. First, morals are quickly declining. People are becoming more and more immoral and unaware to old values. Although these values may appear to be old, they are very valuable and they all pertain to us. Next, kids do need parent support. We can't do it on our own. It is liking throwing a baby into a pool. The baby can't swim, so it is going to drown. Likewise, teenagers can't simply be thrown into the world all at once. Parents must learn to ease their children into the world. It is important for us to earn and gain independence, but we must do it slowly and correctly. Also, it is important for kids to find motivation in what they are doing. Parents must help in doing this. It is always helpful to have a little extra encouragement from adults. Also, even though kids may not like to work, they can always find a motivation that will help them get through a shift. Some motivators are money, job experience, impressing the parents, and becoming independent. Kids are very motivated these days, but not all are self-motivated. Sometimes, without being babied, we just need a little extra push to get us started.

August 24, 2006 9:17 PM  
Blogger ZachM said...

The author describes this lack of ethics as a learning deficit, something I believe is untrue. The world is a different place than when the author grew up and teens fit in differently. To say that we lack the proper ethics because of parents sheltering us is a huge generalization. I have always found that when given a challenge our generation will rise to that challenge. While some in our generation may lack certain ethics I also think that the majority of young people don't suffer from the limitations described by the author. Every generation has some bad apples (Enron?). And with the teenage job issue, we are inheritning a crazy world, so I don't think teens need to stress out about work and money when they are 16.

August 24, 2006 9:25 PM  
Blogger LeAnneC said...

I totally think that some kids are so spoiled and really don't grasp work ethics. I know this is horrible but I was watching my super sweet 16 and it seriously made me want to throw up. It was horrible these girls would go out and spend like three hundred thousand on jewlery and none of it would phase them... Never did they put together that that could pretty much buy a fairly nice house here. It was just amazing to me. I think that even if I did have all of that money and they were my kids I would still make them get a job to get some of the luxuries that they wanted... and while I'm on that I think that every single person should take a job as a waitress or waiter or something in the restaurant business. But I also think that I am kind of spoiled but atleast I have a grasp of much it took to earn what I got and I respect my mother for giving it to me, I really don't think that it's her obligation to me because she is my mother.

August 24, 2006 9:33 PM  
Blogger Andy S said...

I feel that most students including myself try not to think about whats ahead because it scares them. They are nervice they wont get into collage. They feel like they need a brake from school. everything is unknown, and its scary. People coming up and asking where are you going to collage? what are you thinking you want to do? are you excited to be a senior? We dont know were not their yet.

Sure its nice to have money, but work and school and thinking about collages, and just every day life maintaining friendships and relationshps is hard to do all at once.

August 24, 2006 9:35 PM  
Blogger AmyB said...

I Think that today's youth is under alot of pressure lately. Pressure to do good in school, at sports, making the right decision all the time, it can get very tiring. I also think that at age 16 teens should not have to worry about making an income and figuring out if they will have enough money to get through life. I think that we already have enough responsibilities trying to stay on track with school. I know personally when people ask me about my future, it freaks me out because i know in just a few months i am going to be expected to practically live on my own, so i try not to think about the future too much, and i focus on the present, and i know most teens try to do the same. The future is unkown and thats why we dont like to talk about it.

August 25, 2006 10:26 AM  
Blogger Kyle G said...

This article rings true in some areas, and falls short in others. First of all, that part about how kids use to see their first jobs as their passage to the real working world is completely untrue. They saw it as we see it now, not as practice for their career, but as a way to make their own money, and yes gain a little independence. I do agree that there is nothing wrong with seeking a parent's advice or wisdom, at any age, especially our teenage years, the time that may be the most confusing and most difficult for all of us. However, I also think that kids are growing to independent on their parents, but I think that this is the parents' fault. They are the ones that become overbearing, and over protective, wanting to know and control everything going on in their childs life. It is these parents that will fix any problem for their children, so the children automatically go to them for any problem, even ones the child should fix themselves. The mom who fights with the dean, or the dad who argues with his child's boss about his pay, is not the child becoming overdependent on the parents, but rather the parents becoming overdependent on the child. Instead of telling their son or daughter to handle the problem themselves, they do whatever their child asks them, no questions asked. One last thing, the author says that parents try to give their children everything these days, yet it is said like it is a bad thing. While I agree that children should not be spoiled, I also beleive that parents should do the best they can for their children, at least providing them with everything they need, if they can. Parents should not immediately cut their child off from all dependence suddenly, rather they should wean them off of it slowly, preparing them for the real world the best they can.

August 25, 2006 3:26 PM  
Blogger ClaireL said...

I think that this article made alot of good points. Alot of kids now are way too pampered by their kids and I think it's unhealthy when parents allow their kids to be so spoiled even as theyre reaching adulthood. I think that its a good thing for a teenager to have some sort of job whether its babysitting or working at a restaurant or store. Having a job teaches you responsibility and gets you ready for the real world where you will have to work to live the kind of lifestyle you want. This article was saying that teens more and more were losing their motivation and morals, but I think alot of the blame has to be blamed on the parents. When parents raise their kids giving them everything they want and paying for everything, what do you expect but for a lazy, self centered child to be the product? Parents should teach their kids lessons about hard work and responsibility even at the youngest ages, that way when they grow up they will know what is expected of them and they will have a better clue how to handle life on their own.

August 27, 2006 7:49 PM  
Blogger stephm said...

The future is always scary to think about, especially when you like the present. When you have good friends and a good life, you don't want to leave it behind for the unknown. Also, I think that kids that are given a lot, are more likely to look for the easy way out, and therefore lie or cheat to get what they want.The more unfortunate kids that have barely anything work very hard to get what they want, and won't risk ruining it by taking the easy way out. The kids that have the money to go to college don't seem to care about doing as well as the kids that have work hard for scholarships. I think that parents should show kids good work ethic starting when they're young.

September 10, 2006 12:05 PM  

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